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STILL NO BUDGET IN SIGHT
Hoboken City Council fails to pass temporary budget appropriations in lieu of budget -Hoboken Now
Hoboken Environmental Services Director John Pope said that Hoboken's fiscal monitor, Judy Tripodi, would likely override the vote (yes she has the power to do this, so in a way, the entire hour or so spent on it was moot).
Is Judy Tripodi hindering or helping?
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2009/10/hoboken_city_council...
Hoboken Environmental Services Director John Pope said that Hoboken's fiscal monitor, Judy Tripodi, would likely override the vote (yes she has the power to do this, so in a way, the entire hour or so spent on it was moot).
Is Judy Tripodi hindering or helping?
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2009/10/hoboken_city_council...
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Permalink Reply by scott m siegel on
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The holdup is the union contracts. If you want to blame someone blame the unions who can't understand that Hoboken is broke. If we give them raises it goes back 2 years prior, meaning we'll be hit with 3 years in one shot. If there are benefit givebacks they are only valid for this current year. Judy is in charge, not Mayor Zimmer. We need a pay freeze and benefit givebacks and that's the impasse.
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Permalink Reply by James Vance on -
Shouldn't Hoboken Revolt be vociferously demanding the mayor deliver the 2009 budget to the city council immediately. I was at the city council meeting Wednesday. No one was there from our organization.
Temporary mayor Dawn Zimmer should be leading the charge to get the budget out of the monitors office and before the public not giving excuses. When running for office, she promised a budget within six weeks of taking office. She's held the job going on 11 weeks now. We should be holding Dawn's feet to the fire. Blaming the fiscal monitor and the unions is a cop-out.
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Permalink Reply by Tony Soares on -
Hey Jim, when did your Friend Peter Cammarano promise his budget?
If you haven't notice Zimmer started in late July because the guy you campaigned for and gave quite a nice campaign donation to was lead away in handcuffs in July.
Folks Don't fall for Jim's shilling for Mason. He knows better.
The State is in Control of the Budget and from what I heard it's horrendous. (Loaded)
Mayor Zimmer and The Administration are trying to cut where they can. Those who want Zimmer out want the budget in it's current ("unedited") form published so they can use it for campaign fodder.
If it was ready, and Zimmer was holding it back, she should be blasted, but IT IS NOT READY, so why get everyone in a panic?
The Grandstanding by Russo and Mason last Wednesday was deplorable.
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Permalink Reply by Sven on
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James Vance said:Shouldn't Hoboken Revolt be vociferously demanding the mayor deliver the 2009 budget to the city council immediately. I was at the city council meeting Wednesday. No one was there from our organization.
Temporary mayor Dawn Zimmer should be leading the charge to get the budget out of the monitors office and before the public not giving excuses. When running for office, she promised a budget within six weeks of taking office. She's held the job going on 11 weeks now. We should be holding Dawn's feet to the fire. Blaming the fiscal monitor and the unions is a cop-out.
James, don't you understand that Hoboken's ongoing budgeting process is controlled by the State Monitor and not by the Acting Mayor? If you want to make demands for speeding up the budget preparation, then those demands should be directed to Judy Tripodi.
P.S. We all know that you are not supporting Zimmer, and this sort of nonsensical (but very transparent) rhetoric is not helping your candidate.
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Permalink Reply by Fernanda Patterson on
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Whether they deserve a raise or not never seems to enter the equation. They are demanding a raise. It is the same thing that happened with the teachers' union and the BofE. They didn't deserve the 4.5% but they got it anyway and we will be paying for it. I don't think that Judy Tripodi wants to rock the boat with the unions. The biggest supporters that Corzine has are the unions and he can't afford to jeopardize their vote. The bigger disgrace would to lose in his home town. She is pulling the strings, not the mayor or council and she is pulling them the way her boss is telling her to.
Incognito Smith said:Scott,
This is nonsense. The budget should not be held because of ongoing contract negotiations. If the city does not have the resources to bloat the payroll any more than it already is then the unions must clearly be told that so that they know not to expect any more pay increases or benefits. As a Social Security recipient I already know that this year I will not be getting the usual cost of living increase. The same should be true for police and fire and city employees. Under the circumstances they should not be expecting raises they do not deserve and we can’t afford.
scott m siegel said:The holdup is the union contracts.
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Permalink Reply by Tony Soares on
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John, really, I expected bigger of you. The term you and a few others are using "temporary" is really unfortunate and desperate.
Zimmer is the acting Mayor, and you have no evidence that the budget is "sitting on her desk for more than a month"
Vinney Addeo could have been head of the UAW, but if he was elected Councilman (which he was not) A Councilman is NOT ALLOWED TO BE AT THE TABLE DURING UNION NEGOTIATIONS. Council=Legislative. Mayor & B.A.= Administration.
And Oh, by the way, the budget is with the state appointed fiscal monitor. Just Ask Director Pope
John Stevens keim said:The budget has been sitting on Acting Mayor Zimmer's desk for over a month. Blaming the unions is not the way to get this done. Maybe we would have done better with a union expert like Vinny Addeo on the council...too bad we couldn't see past his residence. This organization must get beyond simple shilling for a temporary administration and REALLY advocate for the taxpayers if it wants to remain a vital part of our city's dialogue.
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Permalink Reply by InfotainMe on
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James & John, please continue. 1 remark and 1 response do not a dialog make. Most of Hoboken's other web motels are based on extremely short stays for tawdry purposes, and the bedding... For all the political comments in town there is virtually no political commentary. The congress of serious people is more important than the candidate debates will ever be. So please resume.
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Permalink Reply by Sven on
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John Stevens keim said:The budget has been sitting on Acting Mayor Zimmer's desk for over a month. Blaming the unions is not the way to get this done. Maybe we would have done better with a union expert like Vinny Addeo on the council...too bad we couldn't see past his residence. This organization must get beyond simple shilling for a temporary administration and REALLY advocate for the taxpayers if it wants to remain a vital part of our city's dialogue.
John, are you kidding us? Are you suggesting that we should have voted somebody into the City Council who is abusing low income housing, has an arrest record and would most definitely have come down on the wrong side (from the taxpayers' perspective) of the union negotiations? Yeah, right! Get real!
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Permalink Reply by Tony Soares on
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For what its worth, John Stevens Keim is the husband of Mason's Campaign Co-Chair Ines Garcia Keim.
Not that Ines would hack her husbands email or he would post political items on here for the Mason Campaign.
This is the site Ines wrote/trashed in a letter to the editor whining that there was no "moderator" deleting posts.
Guess some people like to pee in this sandbox but if you even come near theirs they kick sand (or mud) in your face.
I like The Keim's they have dedicated more than 25 years to better education , waterfront preservation and reform.
However these last 2 years I see things completely different than they do.
John, I like you, but please, how can you defend the likes of people you name who get arrested, carted off in leg irons and cost our city millions, then bitch about Zimmer not having the budget by August 10th?
Let's not forget there's still nearly a million missing from the Parking Authority and your team is upset Zimmer hired Ian Sachs?
The vast majority of Hoboken is happy with Dawn. Is she perfect? no. Is she making some pretty significant changes For example, taking the zoning appointments away from a single mayor (on the eve of cammy's arrest -the same eve where Mason Diehards including Ines grilled Zimmer and said she wasn't working "with the Mayor"
So why is it then on the day Zimmer is Sworn in your group isn't "working with the Mayor for the betterment of Hoboken"? Were Peters plans more reform minded?
Love to hear the spin..err explanation
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Permalink Reply by Tony Soares on
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So John, your solution is to put a Union Leader (someone from a receiving end perspective at the table) as a City Representative?
We all know why Mason was aligned with that slate. We are not idiots.
And YES Peter Cammrano was arrested.
As for your use of the label Temporary, you AND Jim Vance like some bloggers on 411 continually call Zimmer Temporary Mayor Zimmer.
That is not her title, you are spinning her "Acting " status into a slight, it's very distasteful and it reeks like a pre constructed talking point.
Hey BTW, I know you have issues with the HCDO, how do you feel about your Wife and Beth Mason attending DeGise's fundraiser last week?
John Stevens keim said:
The union contracts will be a battle with or without a budget. Set the budget first and then let the memberships of the various unions decide if they want raises at the expense of jobs for their brethren. A budget in place would let us negotiate from strength as any experienced negotiator would tell you.
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Incognito: Payroll costs are 80% of our budget. Whether we give them raises even though we are now short $3mm due to property tax appeals is the crucial question. If you've watched me at the Council meetings each month I question why Tax Collector Sharon Curran is never there and all we get is one sentence on how much she collected for the month. Instead we should be getting color on whether or not the numbers are what what was projected (obviously not). Each time I've warned the Council that between bankruptcies and tax appeals we will never get the money we think we're getting. The $3mm is only for the last fiscal year ending 6/30/09. Most of the decline sunk in late spring meaning next year the shortfall will be much larger. Yet the last Council and more importantly Judy Tripodi put their collective heads in the sand and covered their ears. Finance Director Nick Trasente said that this shortfall could not have been anticipated. Are Nick and Judy the only 2 people in this country that were unaware of housing prices? If so they are incompetent and should resign. If they did know and did nothing about it, then they are guilty of using poor fiscal judgement and should resign too. I like that this Council won't play the game of funding operating expenses through debt. In most budgets there is an anticipated percentage of wage increases. How much? We don't know because Judith the Silent is an unelected dictator. Give us the figure and subtract it form the $3mm and force Judy to cut elsewhere, unless of course you're in favor of another tax raise, this year and next.
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Permalink Reply by Tony Soares on
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First John, There was in fact a fundraiser at The Haborside Financial Center on Oct 1st for Tom DeGise. Mason's Team was there. It wasn't a party it was an event to support Tom. I found it odd since Mason had bashed ever reforme rwho has tried to work with him.
John you did not say acting you said temporary, the only temporary Mayor I know of in recent history was The Guy YOU endorsed and The Guy Your Ines Garcia Keim served as the "Mistress of Ceremonies" at his swearing in. And supported the night before his arrest when she spoke out against The City Council taking back appointment power from that crooks hands.
The Official title is Acting. Temporary appears nowhere in the Faulkner act.
The Mayor Had Lunch with the County Exec out in the open, not like Your guy Peter Cammrano at the Malibu with Mike Schaeffer stuffing cash in a trunk right? Okay Thanks
Oh yeah and where are the meetings with Mason and these Northwest Developers and Baseball teams taking place? In Public, a Back room or perhaps that soundstage ad agency replica/set of an office she taped her commercial at?
John Stevens keim said:I was referring to Sven's comment. Ines has never gone to any fundraiser for Tom DeGise. Tony, I respect you but you love to make statements without doing any fact checking. The only Tom DeGise meeting I am aware of was Dawn meeting him across the street from my house at Helmer's a couple of weeks ago....
"Acting Mayor" is not a slight, it is her correct title until the election. Tony, when I engage in spin, feel free to call me on it - at the moment it seems that you are the one sitting on the stationary bike. I was just posting an opinion and then responding to your spin. See you soon.
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