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Pupie Is Trying To Block Dawn and Beths Petitions

Frank Raia to challenge approval of Zimmer and Mason Hoboken mayoral nominating petitions.

http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2009/09/frank_raia_to_challe...

These type of shenanigans is to be expected since this is the only hope Pupie has of winning. Dawn's petitions were actually stamped 4 minutes before the deadline. Both Dawn's and Beth's petitions were accepted, but Pupie wants to challenge them in court.

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Permalink Reply by InfotainMe on September 17, 2009 at 8:52am
I thought I told Frank to challenge all the petitions and all the signatures on the petitions. Goddammit, from now on it's just me, Buster, and the rats.
Permalink Reply by Fernanda Patterson on September 17, 2009 at 11:29am
This is making him look more stupid than he even is. I think that in all "fairness" to the people of Hoboken, the petitions of Mason and Zimmer should be excepted, just like in all "fairness" the box of absentee ballots found two days after the election were counted. After all, aren't elections in Hoboken about being fair?
Permalink Reply by SmartyJones on September 17, 2009 at 12:33pm
It may seem on the surface trivial, but it would meet the legal requirement to be heard. Just updated, calling it "The Pupie Maneuver."

Fernanda Patterson said:
This is making him look more stupid than he even is. I think that in all "fairness" to the people of Hoboken, the petitions of Mason and Zimmer should be excepted, just like in all "fairness" the box of absentee ballots found two days after the election were counted. After all, aren't elections in Hoboken about being fair?
Permalink Reply by ultimato on September 17, 2009 at 1:30pm
Frank just doesn't get it--Hoboken will never vote for an adult who calls himself Pupie.
Permalink Reply by SmartyJones on September 17, 2009 at 2:11pm
We just updated today's piece on this. The likelihood of either candidate being removed is very remote.

Johnny Newman said:
It may seem on the surface trivial, but it would meet the legal requirement to be heard. Just updated, calling it "The Pupie Maneuver."
Fernanda Patterson said:
This is making him look more stupid than he even is. I think that in all "fairness" to the people of Hoboken, the petitions of Mason and Zimmer should be excepted, just like in all "fairness" the box of absentee ballots found two days after the election were counted. After all, aren't elections in Hoboken about being fair?
Permalink Reply by BJ on September 17, 2009 at 5:23pm
Seriously? Accepting their petitions is synonymous with the corruption that happens in Hudson County? Thats what you think?

I am speachless as to how to respond to such nonsense. Yes, anyone could have potentially raised this red herring bureaucratic nonsense, but Pupie a candidate is the one that did. And call a spade a spade, it is Pupies attempt to eliminate competition through bs challenges that is emblematic of Hudson County politics.

By the way, Dawn's were submitted and stamped ahead of the deadline. If the clerk processing the petitions takes a half hour to process, notorize, and stamp it how is that considered corruption on Dawn's part? Don't bother trying to answer that because its a rhetorical question.

Incognito Smith said:
I’m not going to start another thread on this subject. If I did the thread would be “Mason and Zimmer failed the petition deadline” and not so much as to who is challenging them for failing to be there with sufficient time ahead of the 4:PM deadline.

Here we are talking about two elected officials that have the experience and knowledge and the personnel and resources to make sure that their petitions are in place with sufficient time before the deadline. We are not talking about an unknown Joe (Jane) Blow that is new to the system.

BTW, it doesn’t matter who files the complaint with the County Board of Elections; it could have been any of the candidates or any of us. The point is that if we allow this to take place in one of the most notoriously known corrupt counties then we are as bad and as corrupt as the system we’ve created.

This is going to be interesting.
Permalink Reply by SmartyJones on September 17, 2009 at 5:28pm
That's correct. Zimmer's petition had the accurate signatures and a receipt was processed within the deadline. A clerk requested additional signatures that other candidates did not submit similarly and has turned out to be completely unnecessary by statute.

BJ said:
Seriously? Accepting their petitions is synonymous with the corruption that happens in Hudson County? Thats what you think?
I am speachless as to how to respond to such nonsense. Yes, anyone could have potentially raised this red herring bureaucratic nonsense, but Pupie a candidate is the one that did. And call a spade a spade, it is Pupies attempt to eliminate competition through bs challenges that is emblematic of Hudson County politics.
By the way, Dawn's were submitted and stamped ahead of the deadline. If the clerk processing the petitions takes a half hour to process, notorize, and stamp it how is that considered corruption on Dawn's part? Don't bother trying to answer that because its a rhetorical question.

Incognito Smith said:
I’m not going to start another thread on this subject. If I did the thread would be “Mason and Zimmer failed the petition deadline” and not so much as to who is challenging them for failing to be there with sufficient time ahead of the 4:PM deadline.

Here we are talking about two elected officials that have the experience and knowledge and the personnel and resources to make sure that their petitions are in place with sufficient time before the deadline. We are not talking about an unknown Joe (Jane) Blow that is new to the system. BTW, it doesn’t matter who files the complaint with the County Board of Elections; it could have been any of the candidates or any of us. The point is that if we allow this to take place in one of the most notoriously known corrupt counties then we are as bad and as corrupt as the system we’ve created.

This is going to be interesting.
Permalink Reply by Sven on September 17, 2009 at 9:48pm
Incognito Smith said:
I have one more thing to say about this. IMO we would not miss much if Mason and Zimmer are disqualified from the special election. We’ve already seen them perform and know pretty much where they stand. I wouldn’t mind giving somebody new the opportunity except of course Pupie and Patricia because it’s also well known where they stand.

Sorry, Incognito Smith, but I don't quite understand where you are coming from. From my viewpoint, I see the following commendable actions by the current Acting Mayor Zimmer:

- re-establishment of the CC's power to appoint Zoning Board members
- laying the foundation for a forensic accountant to come to investigate Hoboken's books
- demotion of inapt parking utility director Corea
- hiring of qualified city directors
- appointment of qualified people for various boards
- negotiation of conditions under which the state supervision of Hoboken will end with state authorities

What in your opinion is wrong with that?

P.S. I agree with you on councilwoman Mason. She has become a status-quo defender, in stark contrast to her reform-minded actions in the distant past.
Permalink Reply by SmartyJones on September 18, 2009 at 12:09am
Challenge Update Correction

Earlier today at the Mile Square View, we indicated a legal challenge to the petitions of Councilwoman Beth Mason and Acting Mayor Dawn Zimmer. We attributed the challenge incorrectly to the Nathan Brinkman campaign. The credit for this stated intention should have been to Kimberly Glatt's lawyer who was present at the filing.

We sincerely apologize for the error.

Johnny Newman said:
That's correct. Zimmer's petition had the accurate signatures and a receipt was processed within the deadline. A clerk requested additional signatures that other candidates did not submit similarly and has turned out to be completely unnecessary by statute.

BJ said:
Seriously? Accepting their petitions is synonymous with the corruption that happens in Hudson County? Thats what you think?
I am speachless as to how to respond to such nonsense. Yes, anyone could have potentially raised this red herring bureaucratic nonsense, but Pupie a candidate is the one that did. And call a spade a spade, it is Pupies attempt to eliminate competition through bs challenges that is emblematic of Hudson County politics.
By the way, Dawn's were submitted and stamped ahead of the deadline. If the clerk processing the petitions takes a half hour to process, notorize, and stamp it how is that considered corruption on Dawn's part? Don't bother trying to answer that because its a rhetorical question.

Incognito Smith said:
I’m not going to start another thread on this subject. If I did the thread would be “Mason and Zimmer failed the petition deadline” and not so much as to who is challenging them for failing to be there with sufficient time ahead of the 4:PM deadline.

Here we are talking about two elected officials that have the experience and knowledge and the personnel and resources to make sure that their petitions are in place with sufficient time before the deadline. We are not talking about an unknown Joe (Jane) Blow that is new to the system. BTW, it doesn’t matter who files the complaint with the County Board of Elections; it could have been any of the candidates or any of us. The point is that if we allow this to take place in one of the most notoriously known corrupt counties then we are as bad and as corrupt as the system we’ve created.

This is going to be interesting.
Permalink Reply by InfotainMe on September 18, 2009 at 10:53am
Incognito, blogs make money? You're saying I can get people to pay me to be a smart-assed %$#@$@? Holy Toledo, how long was everyone going to keep that a secret?

I wonder if I can bill retroactively for my, um, services.
Permalink Reply by SmartyJones on September 18, 2009 at 11:43am
Yes, Info if you write it they will come. And you may clear $ 0.04 or $ 0.12 a day for your effort!
And that's why I spend the hours putting in the effort.


InfotainMe said:
Incognito, blogs make money? You're saying I can get people to pay me to be a smart-assed %$#@$@? Holy Toledo, how long was everyone going to keep that a secret?
I wonder if I can bill retroactively for my, um, services.
Permalink Reply by SmartyJones on September 18, 2009 at 11:56am
Info as you know, I confessed to stealing your copyrighted term. Please let me know where to send you the check. Looks like it will come in anywhere between .03 and .05 cents.
It's not the glory Info, it's the pennies we're after!

P.S. Those that know won't tell. The disgruntled don't know. The admin does.

InfotainMe said:
Incognito, blogs make money? You're saying I can get people to pay me to be a smart-assed %$#@$@? Holy Toledo, how long was everyone going to keep that a secret?
I wonder if I can bill retroactively for my, um, services.

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